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Visitor Comment: May 26, 2002

Hi! Just wanted to compliment you on a great site. It is very informative, especially since prospective consumers can contact those owners of high mileage vehicles through email. I have already bookmarked this page, and perhaps in time I'll post my car for its high mileage ... and by the way, it is a Toyota Corolla!

Site manager commentary, dated July 24, 2005:

Visitors should always bookmark those pages of interest, to ensure future access.

Visitor Comment: February 19, 2003

I own my third Lexus - a 2002 GS 300 with 6,400 miles beginning with the third day after taking delivery (new) a couple of semi-major repairs, plus one minor annoyance after another, however Lexus was there to make things right.

For the past six months, or so, a medium high pitched combination "moan/rattle" coming from the right front quadrant, not too loud, but noticeable in the cabin. The dealer has made great effort to find and correct the problem, including new shocks/struts and a couple of other adjustments (suspension area) all to no avail.

I have come to the conclusion that this is a body or lower dash problem and only there when driving slow over very easy bumps in the road - some days worse then others. I don't know weather to insist that LEXUS pull 20% of that dash to the firewall to investigate, or replace the car. I am very disappointed in the car at this time. For the price I paid plus the reputation of the maker, account for a lot of heartache, I feel it should be right. Not to sell them short, Lexus is trying.

If by chance, someone out there has had a similar experience , a response would be appr[e]ciated.

Site manager commentary, dated July 24, 2005:

This should serve as a reminder that not every vehicle that comes off the Toyota assembly line is flawless.

Visitor Comment: April 8, 2003

I really like this website and I feel it provides a lot of useful information. However, I do have a suggestion as to how you might be able to improve it.  I have been trying to find information on the average longevity of different makes and models of cars because I am in the process of shopping for a used car and I am trying to find a good one that will give me a very low total ownership cost per mile.  Recently I came across a statistic which said that "Of more than 5.5. million Camrys sold since 1983, more than 85 percent of them are still in operation," I found this statistic on a website with the URL: http://money.cnn.com/2002/12/10/pf/autos/auto_theft/
After reading that statistic, I figured that one could compare the longevity of different car makes and models and perhaps even estimate the expected lifespan of a particular car model by comparing the number of registrations of a particular model with the number of sales in the year that the car was new. For example, if one knew the number of Ford Escorts or Toyota Corollas that were sold in the US in 1988 and also knew the number of 1990 Ford Escorts or Toyota Corollas that were still in operation or still registered then one would be able to make a guess as to which of the two models was more durable.  The model with the highest ratio of current registrations to 1990 sales would likely be the most durable.  One could also calculate the difference in the longevity of the two car models. For example, if the 1987 Toyota Corolla had the same ratio as the 1990 Ford Escort, then one could say that the Toyota Corolla would have a lifespan of about 3 years longer than that of a Ford Escort.
I would be very interested if you would be able to find this information!

Site manager commentary, dated July 24, 2005:

The general idea is sound, and shortly after creating this site in April 2001, I checked with the motor vehicle registration departments of several states. None offered the data that would permit a useful measure on durability and some declined to offer any data, saying that such would constitute an "invasion of privacy." Auto manufacturers may have muzzled state officials; if you don't like it, speak to your state legislator.

Visitor Comment: April 26, 2003

I wish I checked here before I bought my 97 Jeep G.C. -
I[']ve never been towed before until this year - four times...a .15 rating vs. Toyota .91? Duh...

Visitor Comment: September 26, 2003

Thanks for this! Beautifully organized and created.

Visitor Comment: November 11, 2003

Nice site! Just got a decal 150,000 mile from www.highmile.com for my 188,867
1990 Camry.

Visitor Comment: December 6, 2003

You site is amazing.  I don't know why you take the time to put all these facts
and figures together and to draw (properly) the conclusions you do, but it has
been a great service in my quest to find out if I should get a Honda (yes) or a
Volvo (no). You almost have me buying a Toyota, but I find all their car designs
on the ugly side.

Visitor Comment: February 6, 2004

Interesting reading you have.  Sadly, The Detroit 3 have backed themselves into a corner and there is no honourable way out.  The Detroit 3 manufacture [....]  Ford is finished, they will either be joined to some other company or ??? General Motors, due to its size, which is continually shrinking has more clout. Chrysler is already joined up.  Sadly, we Americans make junk, purchase junk and think it is normal and acceptable.  Once upon a time such a third world situation did not exist in this country.  As much as I would rather drive a Mercury - my personal vehicle of choice, I will never.  We have a Honda - not because we really want it, but because it treats us right.  It is safe, built to last and to be dependable.  I don't wonder if it will catch fire in my garage, or stop in the middle of traffic, or have major problems until well up in mileage. My last Detroit 3 vehicle was a 1997 Windstar van.  [...]  The risk is far too great in purchasing a Detroit 3 vehicle.  One individual may own a Chevy or Ford and have wonderful service, the next may have abysmal service. Such does not exist with Toyota or Honda.  I wish I could drive a Ford, I truly do, but Ford will not let me.

Site manager commentary, dated July 24, 2005:

This visitor comment does a rather decent job of putting the statistical data of this site into real world terms. However, the clause, "Such does not exist with Toyota or Honda," is better expressed, "An unreliable product by Toyota or Honda, especially one made in Japan, is much less likely and a dangerous product by Toyota or Honda appears much, much less likely." (See February 19, 2003, visitor comment and commentary.)

Site manager commentary, dated August 7, 2005:

To review a brief chronology of Ford fires, incinerations, lawsuits, and actions taken by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, see 8. Blazing Fords on the Cautionary Remarks web page.

Visitor Comment: Late 2004 or early 2005

Hi!

Just stumbled upon your Reli[ab]ility website. I am SO impressed with your "thoroughness". I have followed CUs results for years, but now have much more data. Since doing that, I have become a Toyota man. ("How'd that happen?") Even at near salvage, Toyotas have proven to still have many miles left in them. I am currently on my 18th old Toyota. CUs charts have always been extrem[e]ly reliable, themselves. Thanks for putting so much effort into the website. It is now one of my favorites! Thanks!

Visitor Comment: Late 2004 or early 2005

I've been amazed at how your site has opened my eyes - I own two 2002 S. Korean cars at this time and have a 2005 Toyota Prius on order for delivery late next summer.  I plan to drive this car 10-12 years and plan to replace the batteries (if they need it) at the recommended 5-6 years (about $2000 in current prices). I drive above the average 21,200 miles per year so will see significant savings on my fuel costs.  I've recently rented a Pr[iu]s from Enterprise rental-car and found the car a[n] absolute revelation and felt as if I'd had an epiphany.  [...] Frankly, I shall never buy another US engineered or built vehicle, and may even shy away from Toyotas built or engineered in the US.  The facts speak for themselves.  I've read some letters to automotive trade magazines saying that these "Consumer Guide" type writings have "ruined the expectations of the car purchasers" (this coming from a VW/Audi salesman).  Wow, then how come a friend of mine was so disappointed with his new Audi, that he traded it off at a HUGE loss and had to step down to a Mazda 3 just to get a set of wheels?  Hmmmmm...... Conversely to the car salesman's whining, I think my friend should have read Consu[m]er Report[s] and your site before plunking down tens of thousands of dollars on an Audi. How could I trust Ford or particularly GM or Chrysler (which are currently working together to develop hybrid drive - how many decades, never mind years, after Toyota started spending money to begin their development?) to actually "get it right" with regards to hybrid technology, when in some 100 years, they can't even get the basic manufacture of automobiles down to a science?  No way.  Toyota yes, or maybe Honda, perhaps even Subaru - except that GM bought 20% of Subie from Nissan during the Asian financial crisis, and everything GM touch, they SCREW UP.  Kind of like the Midas touch in reverse. GM should plan on gradually closing out it's car business, just as Studebaker did.  It took from 1954 to 1966 to close out Studie, which failed mostly due to poor management and shiftless workmen (sound familiar?), so I'm guessing GM might last another decade.  For the sake of our economy, I'm glad to see Toyota putting money into the US in terms of building factories, I just hope our workers are up to the requirements - and I'm not convinced that they are.  Keep up the good work.

Visitor Comment: July 22, 2005

Hi Mr Bleeker

I'm a reader of your web site and enjoy your conclusions and calculations.  After studying all possible information for 18 months and waiting for 9 1/2 months, my 2005 Toyota Prius arrived.  Having taken 28 years to "get it through my head" that the big 2 1/2 either will not or cannot provide decent products (despite an IQ of 127), I finally "wised up" in 2002 and bought a Hyundai Sonata, which (up until now) has been the best car I've ever had.  (Part of my reluctance to "buy foreign" was because my father was in the auto industry, and I am a dedicated car nut as well as born, raised and living in Michigan - though have literally lived all over the country and in the UK as well).  Hopefully, the new Prius will be far better than even the Sonata (and from your figures and stats, it should prove to be so).  I am already getting approximately 200% the gas mileage that the V6 Sonata does.  (My wife took over the Sonata).  Just so you know, I'm obtaining approximately an average of 54 miles per (US) gallon by measurement, and somewhat less by the Prius's computer (which inaccuracy I do believe stems from the fact that it can only compute as high as 99.9 mpg even when regenerating or running on electric-only, when in fact, the true MPG is obviously higher during those times).  Hopefully, I'll be able to run this car for 1/4 million miles and 12 years, so by the time I'm 60, I can buy something - hopefully Toyota will still be making the best - to "last the duration" until and after I retire at age 66 or 67.  I've had the car since the 8th and it is absolutely terrific.  If you are of a mind to retire the Corolla, you won't be sorry if you buy a Prius. It is, by the way, both engineered and built in Japan.  I'm afraid I have to agree with you on the possibility that US designed/ engineered and built Toyotas are not of the same quality overall as those developed and built in Japan.  My last (ever) "American" car (a 1999 Dodge Neon) was in fact built in Mexico, had head gasket problems (2 times), and [...]

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